moilepetitchien 2:50 Fri Apr 1
Plug in Hybrid cars
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Last year someone on here was extolling the virtues of plug in hybrid cars - Spandex Sidney I think.
I know as a company car they are unbeatable for tax purposes but I wondered if any of you lot had day to day experience of these and how good or bad they are.
Looking through what's available it seems the choice is now much wider than the Prius and other Jap crap with MB and BMW amongst others getting in on the act.
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On The Ball
11:43 Sat Apr 2
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orwells tragedy 8:38 Sat Apr 2
And that's the problem. Should be cheap..... but won't be.
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orwells tragedy
8:39 Sat Apr 2
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And there is a difference between a hybrid and a PHEV.
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orwells tragedy
8:38 Sat Apr 2
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Will be £35k when it gets here
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Fresh
8:27 Sat Apr 2
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The Tesla Model 3 looks stunning ..... Could take car market by storm . Only 35$ or about 25k Gbp
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gph
3:52 Sat Apr 2
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Give me a key word for this contradiction of my point, then. Something I can search for without getting loads of spurious hits in the article. Something better than "electric" for finding, er, stuff about electric cars.
You know, what you call "cherry-picking".
I'm not going to read the whole thing.
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Ronald_antly
3:43 Sat Apr 2
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Well, I HAVE listened to it all, and can tell you two things.
1 - It does contain highly relevant information contradicting your point.
2 - Stop cherry picking.
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gph
3:40 Sat Apr 2
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"It wasn’t long before the expensive, LOW RANGE electric engines were abandoned altogether"
On the point we're disputing, you've posted something that agrees with me.
As well as being very long, and apparently* mostly irrelevant.
I don't dispute the bad character of Mr Rockefeller.
*I haven't read it all, just the bit explicitly about electric cars
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Ronald_antly
3:25 Sat Apr 2
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For your reading or listening pleasure;
https://www.corbettreport.com/episode-310-rise-of-the-oiligarchs/
You can either listen to the podcast, or read the transcript of same.
And then scurry back off to your favourite 'debunking' site for comfort.
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gph
3:09 Sat Apr 2
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The real cars produced used batteries, as far as I am aware.
Although fuel cells have been around since 1801, they were pretty feeble until the middle of last century, when the first commercial vehicle using them was produced (a tractor) - according to Wiki.
In short, I suspect you're having your leg pulled by your sources for early fuel cell powered cars, as well as those for the oil-conspiracy fuelled Prohibition movement.
Anyway, Prohibition would merely have meant that European manufacturers would have the edge in electric car production if your version of the history of technology was correct.
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Ronald_antly
2:32 Sat Apr 2
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Why was their range shorter than petrol cars?
Don't say it was their batteries, because we're talking about cars using alcohol to generate electricity in transit.
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gph
2:25 Sat Apr 2
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Here's a proper fun fact - electric vehicles were in production well over a hundred years ago.
That may look little different to Ron's fun fact, but it is actually very different.
Mainly because it gives time for electric vehicles to die long before the US prohibition legislation became important.
They were actually ahead of internal combustion vehicles in sales for a while (but both were behind steam powered vehicles).
What killed them was their short range (not so important when the roads outside cities were so shit that horse-drawn vehicles were competitive for long distance travel) and the low speed of production models* compared to their petrol equivalents.
(What killed steam for road transport was the 45 minutes needed to start a steam car)
*Some very expensive experimental models were a lot faster
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Nurse Ratched
1:21 Sat Apr 2
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Alright. In the event of a national diddycoy shortage: Air Hockey Table technology for our roads and transport system.
I scare myself sometimes. First the flick-mallet, now this.
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Ronald_antly
1:15 Sat Apr 2
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Hermit Road 12:59 Sat Apr 2
Apparently the electric cars used alcohol to generate electricity, so I don't know if battery technology was that great an impediment.
It was the alcohol that was the deal breaker, as Rockefeller funded the Temperance Movement in order to make the use of alcohol prohibitively expensive.
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bruuuno
1:15 Sat Apr 2
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That's comletely ridiculous nurse and will obviously never happen. There's simply not enough pikeys to operate them
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Nurse Ratched
1:07 Sat Apr 2
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Dodgem/bumper car technology for our roads and vehicles.
Convert old carrier bags and plastic milk bottles into 'tokens'.
Sorted.
I am a frigging eco HERO.
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Hermit Road
12:59 Sat Apr 2
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Ronald_antly 12:40 Sat Apr 2
What was battery life 100 years ago. I bet a car could run all of 20 yards on a battery. Perhaps there were other reasons that petrol engines developed at that time.
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LeroysBoots
12:56 Sat Apr 2
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I read today that the new Tesla is free to charge for the life of the car, providing you do it from one of the Tesla charging stations....all 120 of them in the UK !
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Hammer and Pickle
12:49 Sat Apr 2
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Pług-iin inflating rabid right is the real deal.
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bruuuno
12:47 Sat Apr 2
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Yea but hitler could have run amok as he wouldn't be reliant on oil fields in the east to sustain his rampages around Europe so it's swings and roundabouts
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Nurse Ratched
12:47 Sat Apr 2
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You do your best.
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Ronald_antly
12:45 Sat Apr 2
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I was thinking more of all the wars motivated by oil.
I obviously didn't think it through as well as you have.
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